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		<title>By: laocook &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Last Meal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola Josie,

To get the jelly to set seperated, you need to do it in steps. First add the first layer, allow to set, then carefully add the second layer and so forth. We have a &quot;Blast Chiller&quot; in our kitchens, so that makes it faster for us, otherwise you can let it set in the fridge, making sure that liquid is at room temperature before putting it in to cool (an ice bath can help bring the temperature down faster).

Mustard Greens will work well in a Som. What you will be doing is basically &quot;controlling the spoilage&quot;, and once it has fermented, you will be preserving it. Make sure that everything that comes in to contact with the Som is sterilized, especially the jar. 

The botulism toxin mainly thrives in canned foods that have not been properly sterilized or pasterised. I think that the sourness of the fermentation has an effect on bacteria, as botulism is more common in canned foods that contain low acidic ingredients. 

Though saying that, it can thrive in many types of foods that have not been correctly handled.

There is a risk in many foods that we consume, however, when general hygiene practices are followed, there is a less chance of getting any type of food poisoning. 

FYI the &lt;a href=&quot;http://laobumpkin.blogspot.com/2007/10/som-pak-gaht-or-pickled-mustard-greens.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lao Bumpkin&lt;/a&gt; has a good recipe for the dish you are making.

:)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola Josie,</p>
<p>To get the jelly to set seperated, you need to do it in steps. First add the first layer, allow to set, then carefully add the second layer and so forth. We have a &#8220;Blast Chiller&#8221; in our kitchens, so that makes it faster for us, otherwise you can let it set in the fridge, making sure that liquid is at room temperature before putting it in to cool (an ice bath can help bring the temperature down faster).</p>
<p>Mustard Greens will work well in a Som. What you will be doing is basically &#8220;controlling the spoilage&#8221;, and once it has fermented, you will be preserving it. Make sure that everything that comes in to contact with the Som is sterilized, especially the jar. </p>
<p>The botulism toxin mainly thrives in canned foods that have not been properly sterilized or pasterised. I think that the sourness of the fermentation has an effect on bacteria, as botulism is more common in canned foods that contain low acidic ingredients. </p>
<p>Though saying that, it can thrive in many types of foods that have not been correctly handled.</p>
<p>There is a risk in many foods that we consume, however, when general hygiene practices are followed, there is a less chance of getting any type of food poisoning. </p>
<p>FYI the <a href="http://laobumpkin.blogspot.com/2007/10/som-pak-gaht-or-pickled-mustard-greens.html" rel="nofollow">Lao Bumpkin</a> has a good recipe for the dish you are making.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Josie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you get your jelly colors to stay separated in the glass? Looks really cool! love your food--it&#039;s just so creative and unusual!
also--was curious about your som pak, which you posted awhile ago using cabbage.  I&#039;m gonna try to use mustard green in adapting the recipe but I&#039;m wondering how is it that botulism is not a risk factor with this type of fermentation?  -in other words--please explain so I can get my husband to try it!  ;-) thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you get your jelly colors to stay separated in the glass? Looks really cool! love your food&#8211;it&#8217;s just so creative and unusual!<br />
also&#8211;was curious about your som pak, which you posted awhile ago using cabbage.  I&#8217;m gonna try to use mustard green in adapting the recipe but I&#8217;m wondering how is it that botulism is not a risk factor with this type of fermentation?  -in other words&#8211;please explain so I can get my husband to try it!  ;-) thanks</p>
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